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    November 7, 2012
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upstairs, i'm up on the ninth floor high studio at 30 rockefell this will becialdition of "morning joe."way. ey long have fought our way back.now in our hearts that united states of come. and welcome to a special edition of "morning wednesday, november 7the mornihe-
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new york city in front of a great, awake. what's wpeoplele? >> have y >> unbelievable. well there's just a little news to report this morning. president obama has won a second term in the white house. >> what? >> this is huge. go ahead.11:15 last night, the ne presid> the 270old.b[ president has electoral college votes toitt romney's 206. flfriends, my mustache-loving friends, this important. florida is the only swing state yet to be called. oh god. he's texting me right now. textingin rightqf now. >> this is what he says. >> if romney loses florida and h carolina. what's he deal's a deal. >> a deal's a deal. >> and do the showts to come in thursday when florida will be innd that's by i do? >> youk awful. that's still out does not bodel for you mustot the panhandle. >> let it be said or the rest of us.
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>> reckoning. you. come thursday and wll see. >> where do we stand in florida, pretty a slim lead in the sunshine state, but it's considered to be too close to call. is my >> it ents until after was declared the winner of virginia. it was a state h 2008, but with polling race was incredibly >> out president obama took colorado.he also took nevada back poll had deadlocked over the weekend,ly deadlocked, was it >> >> the romneke an 11h there. obama was declared the winner fairly early in the ni one battleground state mitt rom north carolina a state that tk in conventions this summer. l) but this morning the president's also pulling ah important for the people would say for the president's pulling ahead in the popular . currently leading nationwide 50%-48%. >> aside from the rac white house, getin this. control for were s favor. we're going over all of those a little later. democrats now hold 51 senateblicans' 45 with north dakota stillnow, youemember -- first ol, many peoe that's great. all ri i'm hoping several because if not, you are a drunk that stumbled in off the street!
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>> you've been paid a lot of money to be here. money to be here watch our show and willie geist will tell you, what have i bee the white house, not that t. >> eally cares? if we can only keep john boehne >> you we did it! >> taná-ningacross the country. >> let me tell you somete boehner. republican republicans did keep control of the house, my friends. essentially leaving th politicastructr the past two years. >> that actually is the question before we get ce. lot of the same still the les it's status ve got the preside in charge ofobviously, president obama. the house remains in republic and the senate --.<; i think, you know, big pickup for the depths all of these k were supposed to be so c blown eallyg'd i'veyears, when you run in the house, you can beat something with nothing. and i'm livin in 1994. himself. >> b ep senate and the expands, you've got to be a bit r have a governing philoso i-4 corridor andthese swing states. halperin's probably already dug into thisack obama wonh county in tampa
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by 5, 6/x perints. we republicans know how to win these house races. we have got to we have got to -- and it's ideology. >> got tostead of tryin into a1 who actually supporti.eb ye seals that your conservatismer the past fouryou hated barack the americans spoke. that's not a governing philosophy. you can't beat something wit nothing. republicans have t something and be like mitt romney. i'll tell you who'halperin chris christie is going to get hammered over the next couple of weeks for and are you just going to stare at me? >> no. >> have you been up all stop>> you'll be waiting for a do you have? >> >> look the republi is goin circular firing squad for the foreseeable future. they thought they were devastated after barack obama wontime. be ten years lderness. and bob !(rown won, and th? midterms. they thought, you know what ac enough. they lost a lot of senate the same reason. and now the soulrching and the circular firing squad really commences. chris christie will blame. so will mitt romney. of and
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win election ugly. ise are going to have to#r deflect eyalso going tond say what kind of party are we going to be? how are we going to compete in forgeties for a minute in statesnq. what aboutfornia? if part ofqwve 45% of the vote much 'rparty about the future. ng chris exactly maybe wh above osacham, this and happened in 1994. look historically, jon. clinton,at wins. two years rejected by a republican revoluti two years republicans won an his landsl were here two years ago. a lot of unhappy democrrs later, they're seen as overreaching and rejected by the american people. >>emocrats hgreater capacity of the modernity. exa the great one. president bush in second well in '06 getting the thumping and finally getting rid of rumsfeld but that was too lateeim a moment franklin t lastevement. >> it isrkable.he as -- i thinkword "soulb= searching," which has alread even in the last eight >> soul searching. >> how about crushed to p
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>> youknow. reconstructive surg ringork the i heard that. they're on my nose. b thing which is obvious -- what does he do now? >> what doe president do? >> w top, not >> so whatbarnicle what's t thete is obviously to build upon election last night to go to got to go. firstparently the republicans are so rectill living the world tha our principal objective is to defeatc- this president, nothing will continue tof> get done. to recognize t goin#g to be president of the united years. what you've been talking about, though, would happen republican party science, i don't think. if you walk arouthe b many ca fear of the fr youngd of afraid of ts. you've got to be afraid of change. you've got to be afrai many things. and they also think, too many of them, not all of them that talk radio nation and the talk it's not. it's not. it's just not. so they've and the say this is the going to see éo for the next four years.
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and let's do something for thecountry rather than for our >> a couple numbers. >> mike barnicle.e numbers on that point, joe. c@ the president won 70 7- >> wow. >> if you look at demographics, obviously, you don't have to be a mathematician or a statsome people arehe risrating pulation could be stal votes which republicans have chalked up easily.r atident's entire was t economy. i'm digging us out of the hole.[j f the electorate agreed poll said the economy george w. bush's and only 42% say it was the on that argument at the the day saying i'm us out of >> so george w.o have to like ext eight years. >> before people cut him some slack. >> exactly. he's still getting hammered. hammered! let's go throu >> we first wantpresident obam ro obviously in chicago last night at mormack place, the place went int shortly after:00 eastern when declared t th family in massachusetts, and he spoke well. so both of them. people oft america. i believe that the was
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founded are the only sure guide to a resurgent renewed greatness. like so many of you, paul a i everything on we have given our all to this campaign. i so wish that i had been able to fulfill your in but t ann and earnestly pray for him and fo thank god bless are the best! thank you so much. >> and whether i earned your and you've mad president.r struggles, i return to the white house more determined and more work there is to dohat liessc >> mk halperins last night towards mitt romney. mitt romney also gracious toward the president. ee >> the president was not just gracious, he was fantastic. i think that was the best he gave. a lot l his 2004 and 2008 speech. a lot of 2 people were asking where was that speech at the where was that guy? he spent the last year after the budget talks fell apart, he spent the last year saying i'm go new mandate by drawing sharp contrast contrast. last night he edahing out. the teastic. he's got to prove to republicans
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from their point of view that hes it and he's going to foll. thought lots of stuff was grea irregularities of any ance no overtime popular vote winning the electoral college. and that speech a great end to the evening saying even though it's a status putting out his hand to say i'm going to meet with mitt i'm going to go back me elected the first time. fantastic platform to build off.>>uences if they don't work together which i think will help the president and republicans come to the table. >> yeah, no doubt about it, they have to wo prident and the speaker of the house have got to figure out a congress who control congress who under the constitution hold the checkbook. >> right. how to work together. and jon meacham, you know history is littered by win re-electi have failed second terms. presidents that win huge majorities, huge landslides and then collapse. in recent history, lbj in '64, nixon in '72, reagan's second term for the first three years,
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disastrous with iran-contra. george w. bush's. what does this president do following lessons of the past to make sure that his second term is more effective than his first? >> you're right. the thing worse than losing historically. but i think reagan's a good example. the iran-contra, enormous blot. but he did have some significant foreign policy the '86 tax reform.icularly in those first two took that 49-state mandate. that's thehe got 49states. it's imagine now. in 1984. and managed to push through with that. i t the best second-term presidents are ones who because there's nothing more -- no 2016 yet. >> we did on the tour. >> okay, good, good. all right. >> we're getting there. >> we didn't game it out past the south carolina primary. halperin's got actually a tweet ready. just perish immense amount
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-- he needs to moveenbush in totally running on something he had never mentioned, by using something he had never mentioned, social security. the one thing i would say -- barnicle's been -- i hate to say this kind of brilliant on this point>> i know, it's >> strange things happen in campaigns. >> yeah. >> about the need for humility in washington to be the the one thing i wish president had said instead of made me a better president, because i've heard you, is i hope you make me a bett >> yeah. >> not that >> well, okay. mincing words words matter. words matter. >> they do. they do. >> humility you've talked about the president, the administration to show more humility over the nexsly, i will say it about my own party. my own party needing to show more hum for someple in modern-day america confuse civility with compromise. you and i can disagree. in fact, we can be on opposite ends of the eyeideologicalum. committee with still be polite with each other and talk it out
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and figure out a compromise. that's cpromising my va what you i believe. that's not that's actuallyus being constructive and putting t united states of america's best interests against your own political party's best interests. >> yeah, but joe, i mean, you're right. you're absolutely right. go ahead. give it up for joe. >> it's been quite a night. and i'm not exactly looking forward to thursday when comes in with his mustache. >> what you're talking about isn't just something that began with the election of barack there's been a sense within the political system within the campa youors i'd say an 10 to 12 s times during the course of this year. where now it's not just enough to defeat your opponent. you have to demonize your r opponent as well. >> you have to destroy them right. >> and you've built a wall. too many candidates in this country at too many levels of congress on up to the white house, they build a wall between themselves and thed the consultants, and the wall is who pretend to cover these campaigns. >> right. >> but campaigns the way campaigns used
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to be covered, in terms of the issues that affect real people.o change i a dialogue, a legitimateandidates where they stop demonizing one another. >> all right. before we get to break, we have the senate races to cover real control of the senate last night, end, it wasrats who were able to flip several seats in their favor. in massachusetts, elizabeth warren reclaimed for the democrats, defeating incumbent scott brown. >> she's going to :g on this morning. >> in connecticut -- and in congressman chris murphy actually becomes the senate former wrestling linda mcmahon who poured 42 million more dollars of her own moneypaign. sh4-1. she's now spent $91 million. >> that might have been a bad buy. >> over the past two years, making sure that republicans didn't pick up a single damn seat in connecticut! >> in indiana, democrat joe completed his comeback against richard mourdock, winning that state's race. mourdock never recovered after
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ifnt by rape it was, quote, something that god intended. >> politics friends, don't say that if you're on the campaign trail. democrats were also able to hold several seats that were considered up for grabs. todd akin's controversial legitimate rape comment, just a little t7joo much for him to overcome in that either! senator claire mccaskill holds on to her seat. in virginia tim kaine pulled former senator george allen. >> and in ohio sherrod brown won a seco term in the senate fending off republican state treasurer joshel. and in wisconsin, mmy baldwin becomes america's first openly gay u.s. senator, defeating tommy thompson. and the key word there, "openly." and in iwlx independent angus king easily won seat. one. >> the most important adverb of the notable pickup for ans was in nebraska where deb fischer flipped ben nelson's seat defeating bob mike
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really quickly before we go to break. that race was we had heard, near the up. all of these races, barack obama's coattails at those numbers, you look at massachusetts, it wasn't even close tt romney had no coattails. in fact, he had a really detrimental impact on a lot of these candidates >> mitt romney lost in every state he's ever livered edlived. >> that's a bad sign. >> do you think his dog's going today? >> you k who's in charge of the researchpublican senate candidates? >> we thank god. i mean seriou6p overtime keeping- seriously, as majority leader of sharron angle in nevada christine "i am not a o'do a lot of soul searching here friends. >> it's not soul searching. it's more than that. >> everyone sitting at the baccar watching boxing on closed circuit. and instead he's going to be majority leader for a couple more years. >> linda mcmahon she's going to2 million
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in a dumn new haven and light it fire and just get it over with. >> cut out the man. >> cut out the middle man. >> let's cut out the middle man. >> go ahead. >> can i say one more thing about the senate? >> sure yeah. >> pennsylvania michigan florida, ohio mega states democratic incumbents breezed to re-election in all fouthem. >> oh, my gosh. >> we got all the news in. still ahead on this special post-election edition of "morning joe," the winners of last tim kaine and massachusetts warren will be here. also, nbc's tom columnist eugene robinson. up next mike allen with the post-election "politico playbook." up next andrea mitchell harold ford jr. join the conversation. you're watching "morning joe"
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29 past the hour. a stion m studio 8h inj2 rockefeller center. by the way, look who's here. this is huge. >> joining nous ój andrea former chairman of the republican national committee, michael steele. and msnbc political analyst and visiting professor at democratic congressman harold ford jr. and host of "mad money"nu on cnbc jim cramer. >> and by the way,a ming. andrea mitchell came up to me mika spoken like aieve that for you must win florida and north carolina. >> so how awe? >> i don't think that's true but i'm going to talk lawyerwyers. but thanink that's supporting. >> i think when axelrod on thursday we ought to try and nego new era of oa bipartisanship has begun -- >> yes. could use your diate. >> i doubt it. w i doubt it very . >> i think we can get something done. work it t do you thi? historic night. hopefully it translates intothat have been talked about this morning, especially a magnanimous tone being struck by both i was most struck by twoxp things one, the hopefully
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republicans maif you listened to the rhetoric from some in thehe sena which i think surprised many and if you look where the states were picked up montana, it looks more like win that seat. in north it's a positive 'ing forpc the country in many p;ways. hopefully it translates into us getting a deal around the t and sequestration. and i'm hopeful that it sets a immigration to be dealt with which i would republicans with right away. >> michael, let years ago, you were chairman of the republican national >> yep. landslide in recent history. >> yeah. >> nationwide picked up 700 seats across state legislatures.cans946. what happened over the past twoaused this collapse? other thanq] >> well yeah that was part of it, i'm sure. >> yeah. >> no i think part of it was looking back wep of . and what we discovered stopped uwtalking toed communicating values and ideas, accepting people where those two years, joe,ou covered my tenure at the rnc
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just like everybody else youdidn't haveonversations about vaginal insertions and -- >> right. >> thank god. >> contraceptions.early to be using those words. >> probe. >> pro. >> use the operative word here. >> thank >>state-sanctioned probe. you know what? maybe we should just steer it. point taken. >> point taken. no, but the point was, we were talking about the things that people were concerned about. we got off of that conver and we got into these other areas where people felt threatened by the tone and how wetopped embrac. so i think that was a big part of the breakdown. andthen of course just the overall messaging ec >> didn't connect. andrea. >> there were so many advantages that mitt romney had on the economy going in. i think the jeep ad was a disaster. you have two ceos basically callin but iith michael about the values. you igne the values of
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mainstream americans. you can't ignore women. and you can't ignore the hispanic and minority communities and speak to them the way they were spoken to by some of these mourdock, akin and that bf the overwhelming tone. >> even by mitt romney. sorry. >>o doubt craig shirley had said and i've quoted him, that november football games are won in august. >> yeah. >> wells case you could even say a november game was won back in the early spring when mitt romney decided that he was going to dart as far right as humanly possible, jim cramer,n immigration immigration. and he tried tgo to the right of rick perry. it may have helped him win votes in the primary in the short run. in the long run, you could see it early last night. the exit polls came in. we heard there were moreng in virginia this time than four years ago. colorado, more this ti four years ago. mitt romney got crushed by the hispanic vote. if he had had the samispanic votes that george w. bush had in 2000
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or 2004 he would be president of the united states this morning. see, andrea's so rright. i think romney went mathematic, but remember you could do all kinds of project orca trying to get the last-minute vote, trying to be -- they call it that f heaven's sake. but inend, the arithmetic was we're a8:country. the country doesn't look like when i grew up. i'm 57 and the country that romney appeals to is long gone. it doesn't look like us. go back ronald reagan we always talk about ronald reagan's historic landslide in 1980. mika you do breakdown from 1980 and put that in last night's voting group, and ronald reagan would have lost in a landslide. it is a new republican party. this is something that george w. bush and jeb bush s in they warned republicans ajçbout it for some time. and last night, they paid a heavy price for not listening. >> they paid the hard it is a race you could argue
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they should have won. >> oh, my gosh. seriously? we had to work overtime do this! left everything on the field? really? >> no. >> not even close! >> they pushed itarther away. >> what does tch -- if you remember what first undo the obama health care substantively in your mind offmewhat and with so many other important issues including the fiscal cliff, but does affordable care act, the supreme court has spoken, the voters have spoken does this mean that we accept it as law? >> i think so. >> politically. >> i tedges. >> but they were going to. >> you to happen over the next four years. you only have to go back to see what ars now. it's identical. again, i'll say it again. in 1992 you had a new democrat come in. he went too far left. in 1994 a moved back to the right. two years later, that republican party went too far right. the american people spoke. and they re-elected that new democrat and gave him another four years. and then the sides figured out how to work together on welfare reform on balancing the
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budget for the first time in generation bancing the budget first time for four years since the 1920s, did a lot of great things. that can happen again. but republicans and democrats need to understand they've got to work together to do it. >> let's go to "politico." with us from headquartnhers in virginia, chief white house correspondent for "politico," mike allen. and mike we wewiou late last night. we were able to skype with mybrother in sweden with absolutely no technical problems. >> but not "politico" in arlington. >> but with you it's a disaster. that's all i have to say. good morning, mike. >> good thank you 2wfor trying. the shot looked great. your coverage was amazing. thank you very much.ad a your takeaway takeaways is that republicans are going to have to find a new way to get senate candidates. and we've learned that today, top senate leaders are going to be meeting with some of the outside groups around washington to try and get them to serve as a littlecommittee so that they don't get these unelectable
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candidates. just a mitt romney lost in an unlosable race as you point number of these senate candidates also lost unlosable races. looking ahead a little todaye're going to see the bat lines drawn on the if is cal cliff fight. at 3:30 today, speaker he's going to say that this was a status quo election a in the white house democrats in the senate. him, republicans in the house,that this is a mandate for common ground on a mandateepublicans to cave. the white house is going to say, look. the nt around the country saying how he wanted to fix the fiscal cliff, saying that he wand to raise taxes on people who make most money. and it's no surprise they have a mandate to do it but speaker boehner drawing a very hard line -- hardc@ opening line saying that he would forget $250,000 or more that they'veq on. he says he for someonelion orot someone w chastined bynight's republ , are going to say the
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same thing the president says. i've got a mandate because they certainly ran in their seats, promising not to raise taxes. so we're going to have to have how are the markets going to react? i think the markets arese there was a rought people into the of very isolated stocks that people felt some naval defense stocks. but the thing i'm worried about here is what i call -- i know chris matthews is here -- the outlaw josie wales factor. g remember what they were really about. they thought that confederacy had won or was going to win. on air last night, while we were getting results, we had people coming on said this is a great ctory. just wait and see. what was i waiting for? for guam? >> can i just tell you, a lot of us felt like you know going into the old peanuts analogy, we were sitting in the pumpkin patch waiting for the great pumpkin to rise. >> i love better than josie wales. >> it never came. we heard about that. but you know jim, sachar -q morning. they believed they were going to
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win. they had the ntum. t. >> by sunday night, they were flat. they had gotten thej polls in. they weren't moving in ohio. they weren't moving in pennsylvania. at that point they were flattened by sandy. i don't think this race was close enough to be impacted by a >> no. >> but that's certainly what they believe. >> chris christie yes, springsteen's his ringsteen may have brought him over. i think that people -- i was in ohio a couple weeks ago. you know, there's great wealth in ohio. there are companies t dollars to ohio because there's northeast ohio was flooded withal abouts of dollars of oilmoney. those people are not unhappy. >> andrea we saw it early and we were talking about how the right track/wrong track in ohio shi romney i think, one of the when mitt romney told john kasich stop bragging about your e.0conomy in ohio. ohio was a leading indicator. >> it was a leading in you know the other thing about against agreement is the people who were electedin the house, and the seats. the democrats did rably. i think youip may see a change iemocratic side as a matter of fact. nancy pelosi --
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>> would that be good or bad? >> i don't know. sh position after this pa but the point is people who have been elected on the house side feel as you've just said that they've got mandate not to compromise. the senators who have been trying to do something, coburn andd- rather the -- >> the gang of six. >> the gang get together, mark warnerd bob corker and very conciliatory statement from -- >> from them. >> from them and from some of the other senatoron the republican side last night. >> mike talking about mandates. and i can if you knew this or not, ran for conggosh. reallyly -- >> breaking news. >> breaking news. but when i ran in '94, i ran against bill clinton, when i ran in '96, i ran against bill clinton. bill clinton got re-elected. not to follow bill clinton. it was to do what i promised to do on the campaign trail. i think sometimes we do forget because we're all looking at te that there with their own personal their people, with their 600,000
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constituents. gornment. that's why we have to compromise. >> well and something thatther impediment to getting a deal who are coming to congress now are even less beholden to their leaders than ever because they have their own sources fund-raising, their own sources of media. and so it's much more difficult for speaker boehner tthose republicans. another hugeto the deal. you knowan coming back to the house. credibility, more sway with the conservatives than yobly running for president. ryan is running for president from the house, he is ñwgoing to have no incentive tol with president obama. it's a big deal and that could really mitigate against any kind of a quick de >> interesting new dynamic there. mike allen, ladies and gentlemen, mike allen. thank you. >> great coverage. matthews here. also, thet ste margaretcarlson. andrea ll thank younight. >> thank youbz, andrea. and bye-bye, cramer. thank you so much. jim cramer, everybody. you're watching the special
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post-election edition of "morning joe" live from studio 8h. we'll be right back. we have may have battled fiercely, but it's only because we love this country deeply that we care so strongly about its future. george and lenore to their son, tt, they have chosen to give back, and that is a legacy that we honor and applaud tonight.
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the state polls were all light.ack to "mornings 49 past the 2= the host of msnbc's "politics# nation," reverend al sharpton. we also have former mccain senior campaign strategist and msnbc political analyst, steve jm schmidt joins us. and bloomberg, margaret carlson as well. >> great to haveou here. reverend al happened? >> i thought it was a great night. >> are you sure? >> obviously, i haven't gone to sleep yet. i mean president n but won big and across the board, time for just celebration or time to really take the high road bring the country together make some hardt those
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of us on the democratic at the fact that the extreme on the republican side that really hurt romney, and we cannot be extreme when the president has to makeom s around the deficit and all. otherwise we will end up kng last should make all sides reflective the middle and .7 do something big country. >> it's a big statement. >> no do. joe, how do tme issues that are most of gravity facing this country? how do we get to the point where they do? how does that happen? >> well, i think at this point coming up. >> that will help. >> to your point, last night on nbc news that 80% of mitt romn attacking barack obama. 85 obama's ads were negative attacking mitt romney. i think at this point, they've got winsn churchill said in war, acnam ichltmagnamity. before republicans canhe democrats, we've gou our own party. think about it margaret and republicans won presidential
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races and democrats won,kn of the last 6 pres elections, we republicans have lost the astmething wrong. >> yea fundamentally changed over the last 5 years. 25 years. in herbert walker bush, 60% of the white vote. he gets 400votes. mitt romney last night, 60% of the white vote. theelection. very decisively. so as chairman steele pointed out, 50,000 latinos turn every month in this country. we cannot write off the fastest growing demographic in this country and hope to arty. we will note competitive at presidenti elections. so when you look at the totality ofk at the fact that we have away five u.s. senate seats over two election cycles by ied to be in the united states senate. >> unelectable. and you ask people out there -- and i've got to say, it oes also to. >> at some point, we've got to people who are candidates.
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pat buchanan talks about, quote, atwhat? you can know the west coast if you d to run the west co sc going lose! >> there's no doubt about that. let's be clear. but we don't -- >> ee sport the country, though. >> i'm sorry. >> to have better candidatesuntry, afraid of that certainly. but at this point, it was a joke. what we ltw. unforced errors in a joe, that you think the two of us have grown up. >> together. >> together. that, you know you shouldn richard mourdock. they shouldn't be winning. christine anything. small groupsah? naging to take over the party mcmahon in connecticut. win the primary. >> linda mcmahon in connecticut -- and you know this margaret --o would have won last night. two years ago defeated rob simmons who i think would have won two yea linda mccannost republicans two senate seats. that's six senate harry reid would be home. >> she tried to buy it lost it twice. and because it's the party
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apparatus, it's letting the self-financed or ultra you know they're not you look at t in maine, it's seven. it's extraordinary.]r so conservatism is a governing philosophy that has served this well. conservati who not conservative should not be defined around who ag#= outrageousness comes out of the mouths of these talenough. is no qu verdict is in. all of these people that run[÷ aroundrz calling anybody that can win swing voters all have cost us the majority in get out of the way and let's get main street republicans back there.1 a reagan republican, as steve schmidt said in these seven races would have won. this is not conservatism is not ang philosophy.hat lunacy is not a governing philost a winning
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philosophy. i two quick things to build reverend sharpton's point. california passed a tax increase last night amid big controversy and big, big opposition. why did they pass $:it? to pay for education and things that mattere president frames it around it. passes same-sex marriage, socialry, very important forward not only with the demographics around race and religion, but if you look at how and what people are accepting >> that has changed a lot since even helped by a slew of marriagelity amendments that went 1f down. >> marriage eqty i think the other thing going back to stpoin to making sure the republican partythe dominant party, you've got to address wome latinos, african-ambrace them.can't have issues that are hostil one of the things that drove a lot of votes, people predicted-american vote was including on this show yesterday. it went up. but one of the things that droit was not just that we agreed ig story. >> nobody stands in line for five or six all t,
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still ahead -- >> by thanic vote went up as >> yeah. of key states. >> you know the one thing everybody agrees on we want the game to be fair. we don't want the refs from green bay. how's tha ought senate racsenator-elect tim kaine and from massachusetts, senator-elect elizabeth warren. plus, national urban league president andceo, marqbc morial. willie? i know a guy. i've got a good ticket broker. front alexander,r? > did anyone in this roomvote for president obama?ering of applause. where is he? there we go. five people in the back.llent. when we co"morning the great chris matthews. on short rest, no less. so look out. we'll be r studio 8h at 30 rock.cx
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last ka7ight was an important one. ro >> we'veher five yeas reat people. >> no question try and win. and there were se dynamic along the way thatnothing to doith him. the rightelf up. >> ukinnon knows through it h presidential election is. >> imp it' microwave. >> very very tough for theromneys. >> and then you get the keys to hell. >> you get the keys to the gates of hell. >>y. so ed rendell,l pennsylvaedvr38l mitt within even thi weekend in that "tribuneed. >> end. in the end,was wasn't close.ot seduceds the modeling the enthusiasm gap built in there was no enthusiasm gap in penn by 487,000 votes, a re5% of the vote not counting philadelphia he's up 460,000. bucks county? no president's campaign assuredsercs to get out the vote in the baleground states. the othe break decisively towhe time w telling us all along. everything the was true and a what mitt romney's campaign li graveyard, hoping against hope that they would get a wave. >>he president's campaign wasost confident i've the president had when we looklts,
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because of the two factors i said their turnou partially for the president. they overperformed in a happened th mckinnon. when they got tback the romney people excited on dejected on sunday despite the fact they had 25,000. >> huge crowds the undecideds weren't breaking their way. >> tthe sails and they got their internals ohio. that's i when i this they went to pennsylvania as a wanted to ask mark a question.se bchñg >> yes,hek but thank ÷you for asking.t's all you'rembargoed. >> i'd like to ask mark and the governor a question because i fascinating speaking ofpennsylvania fact thate movement there, some ha pu thought, that some further investigatio do you thinkif they had apy team had approached the idea of not per other states to stretch out the obama team and their effort a littlmore than they sort of tap into andet them off howmicrotargeting those that that would have difference in places like a florida or a virginia that
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winning? >> this is the first presidential campaign any of us have seen where resources r side. earlinnsylvaniaheave been as competent and efficient in analyzing how do we get to 50% plus one in pennsylvania with the kind of targeting. for instance, in virginia they . targeted voters effe talking about women's h$reproductive freedom and the philadelphia subung in minnesota. it may have been a stretch, but they allowed the it's stunning. >> after romney's great pennsylvania. they spent $11 in the last seven days. if they could have spent $30 mill $35 million in the last four weeks, they could have remember, obama carried by 11. probably when the final vote's mark who you know, six months ago, mika, i wasby a republican in the state of virginia who was not supporting tim kaine. and he andatch tim kaine in virginia.y j@office.)# and he said i know you're not going to vote for me. i know you didn't support me when i was governor. but work togeidime ialked to my other republicaniends. doing across the state of virginia. that is how you win elections.times,
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and the governor will tell y as much as politics. and tim ka right. >> look at tim kaine this morning. >> right now from west virginia winner of last night's virginia senate race democratic ser-elsn >> hey, thanks, guys. so -- >> he looks a little tired. >> so senator, talk aat. talk about what you did because microtarget the people t thought would actually w spoke vote against you. but let them know that you were all of virginia. how did that pay off for you last night? >>elt verygood. you know we felt like we had a plan, and it was a and we stuck to it. you know some of you know virginia where we're kind of naturally independent. we don't register by party, so even thole might have a preference, we really try to trec reason to -- my father-in-law was the first republicanrnor of the 20th 's a proud 89-y i'm a proud democrat, i've always felt like the key to success as a mayor and as a governor is everybody at the table. even if people aren't going to be with ce, and that's what we tried to convey.>> let's talk a little bit about the power of not only presidential polits but in
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these races as well. your race senate race drew more outside money than any out there. to defeat you.ike to see change in the process, which is wouldn't you aagree a little corroded and toxic when it it definitely]s needsbe changed. i think i was punched-up target in the president obama money. they started running ads again /+st me in november of 2011 and the air ofd, we did virginians would kind of rejec negative ads. that it might have a little day, if you're going to be a senator, they want to hear why you're going to do it and what you hope to do. and spanish the race started to come our way. we need a minimum no-secret-money o give t someanization put in place after watergate. that's the first thing i'm signing on for. and i think there'sher reforms we've got to put in place. >> governor senator-elect, mark halperin !çhere. congratulation congratulations. i want to move to governance. the big issue for everybody is now going to be the fiscalo the full details, but you likerand bargain?
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what are the big elements required to get thelq7> that everybodd to weigh in on? let me steps. first let's avoid the sequester all a plan on the about five months tt just uses three simple elements that i think are all compromises. let the bush tax cuts expire over 's a compromise between the position, and it produces about fimecare for prescriptionpricing. and t subsidies away e incredibly do those three things, u can see all those as lion dollars of potentit could hurt defense and hurt the virginia economy, and you shrink it dow that if do that will create confidence and can springboard thesion, and i think the bigger discussion has to be one where kind of along the lines suggested by so got to have $2 or $3 t cuts for every $1 of revenue, but we can't fix the balance sheet unless we fix both so both parties to> senatort1bk-elect tim kaine, congratulations. >> thanks for being with us ha >> all right. very good. yeah. boy. >> we've gotgot to wait till the florida -- let the people speak. >> axelrod will b here thur
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>> we'll talk about it. >> florida will have spoken. >> let and lopment. whether you list president's speech last night, mitt romney's speech last night what senator-electjust said a lot of people sh in >> good feeling. feels pretty good. a different moment to -- ra am i alone here? i haven't felt this sense feeling from both in a long time. >> joe, you're feeling can dissipate. the prake the feeling and lead. he's got to lead and quickly in my judgment. >> that's a good point. he's got to grab better. >> so wil's got the tease. willie, take it away. here. one thing donny deutsch did want me point critique, we have not yet mentioned th ea that was a donny. that was a donny. he's our public editor this we'll be right b the great tom okaw david0ç elizabethwarren and bill karins nor'easter that's sweeping this way. all that and more when we come right back. good morning, everyone. we are watching this n'easter that's going tbe affecting the areas that were just slammed by sandy. and it's going to be ugly thisrnoon. already behind me miles per ple inry that are
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can't overcome. >> that's pretty good. 42 past the hour graciousness. >> that was really great. two great race. welcome back to "morning harold ford jr. and mike barnicle back at the table. joining usnow, the chairman of - >> yeah it end >> just the look on his us and off color is off that shirt and he's going to have the baby >> you i serious. >> here's the deal. elizabeth warren isuld you please be quiet? morning. chastised any guest? none. reverence, respect, abus >> deserved. >> boy, you didn't see her interviewing r you? so let's talk about the republican brand. you're all about branding. republican process, we weekend on "meet the press," it hurt the republican anid not go at this party right is as been in years. >> i was talking to steve backstage. the brand is over as we know it if it ever wants to succeed. all you have to do is look at the demogragoing. it's them. people want progressiveness. people want compassion.y who i never like stablishment is now the
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minority. they have to self-correct. they can't just say we're not your fatherthey have to be a in will nevertenor, ifchange. v from them. reinvention. the republican party as we know ever win another election has to beletely reinvented at this pohm>> and steve shsubmitsh schmidt schmidt, this is about demographics. geor1988 an election we all remember very well, got 62% of the white vote.#ñlelectoral votes. last night, got 62% of the white vote. he got half the electoral votes. >> chuck an interesting thing backstage also. georgia, texa moving away. you know what this country is going to look like in the year country. b the tea they're being held captive because you've got to give a extreme social issues. you can't get elected tha anymore. it's that simple. >> and joe, as you said it's got to be beyond rubio next time and say see, we've changed. it actually has to come from sowhere deeper. >> that's a fantastic point. i said that also. it can't just be look at me, i'm
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hispanic or african-american, it's got to be here. >> it's got to be what elizabeth warren did, actually. >> is that your segue in. at marco rubio ina, ted cruz in texas,s are electing good conservative candidates. but if you have a primary process thatfar, far right and being seeipn as being hostile to hispanics, it's going to cost you. >> all right. joining boston winner of the senate race senator-elect elizab congratulations! >> you know -- >>'m sorry. mika is so giddy, >> i don't know what i'm going to de; you can now tell america that it was our kiss at fenway that put you over the top last night. >> that was it. incredible victory. talk about what's happened to you over the past four years. who would have believe boomer sooner would make it to the u.s. senate in massachusetts! >> you know this has just been
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amazing. every single part of this. and the most amazing part has been the last year about running gknow massa very special place. this one was grass rre people who showed up in living rooms anden school auditoriums who held signs, who called neighbors, who really made this happen. race as a people we ry we're gomd and they wanted to be part of happen yesterday. i've got to tell you, this is democracy. >> yeah. no, we watched you throughout the race. n campaign. even joe was. and your campale was genuine and based on knowledge and gut, knowl what truly believe this country needs to do. but let me ask you now moving forward, because you created the consumer financial protection bureau but then it got of got churned out of the system. you know how hard washington can you lived it gone through how brutal a campaign can be. what do you think you'll be able to do in washington given the fact that when you get there, it's going to look a lot like the washington we had last but i come there for the same reasons i went
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before. and that is to work for people who need someone to speak out for them. there not just to be a senator. come on, that's not what this is about. th coming there for all the people who say, look, this country has got to work for us. working people.e carpenters, for the teachers, for all the people who we work hard. we play by the rules. we just want a chance to build a little economic security. we'reç willing to pull tighter on we're our for me this isn't about i'll work with anyone. and i really do mean that.republican independent, libertarian,rian, vegetarian, i don't care. >> that's a big tent, senator. >> it is a big tent. you bet. because what it's really got to be about is it's about what's happening to our working families, what's happening t america's middle class. if we don't make some changes and put some solid ground under
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their feet then america as w know it is going to fundamental fundamentally change. we just can't let that happen. and the people of massachusetts last night, i've got to tel too many folks who stood there in the rain holding a sign too many folks who knocked on doors to say, we're better than that. we can build a country together that works for our families again. i believe thbarnicle. >> senator-elect warren -- t again, barnicle. >> isn't thatñ amazing? i love it. >> senator-elect warren. it's been many months since i encountered you in washington when you were just leaving the consumer bureau. and we talked about you running for the united states senate. >> i think you talked about it. yeah. mm-hmm. >> but you know, i think you'd be the first to admit, admit teaching at harvard law school you led a within what have you learned aboself during the course of one of the greatest processes a person can go through, a campaign -- >> and like
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fitch fitchburg, massachusetts, and gardner, massachusetts, far f cambridge, the life you've led the past ten years. what have you learned about yourself that you think will be r you in the senate? >> you know, i think it's about the heart and about the connection. i always know who i am. i'm the daughter of someb ended up as a matenance man. my mom worked the phones at sears. i knew every single day at harvard exactly who i was. i was blessed to id myself. i wasn't born there. when i was in fitchberg and pittsfield, i was growing up in an america that was still investing in creating more and more opportunities and too many people today live in a world in which the opportunities just shrinking. there just aren't and so it was to heart and it's understanding. we all want that same chance. i got the chance.
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i want to make sure others get it too, and that's what thi race was about. >> all right. thank you so much for being with us, senator-elect elizabeth warren. we greatly appreci. >> tnk you. congratulations. >> and carol ford i want to say it again -- >> she's great. >> i know she's great. >> i know but she's good. we're so >> yes, i know you're so lucky to have her. >> it's true. aren't we lucky to have her? thank god. >> what's the opposite of a bromance? >> i told you not to speak. >> again, look we're talking, mika, like this era of good feeling at least for the past 24 hours doesn't look like this usually the morning after an election, a hard fought election. but look at not only whater said last night in massachusetts but look at the joy -- the joy, seeming y, in scott brown -- >> scott brown is a really great
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>> a great guy. we saw it with mitt romney last night, defeat. harold, we saw it with scott brown last night in defeat. a lot of graciousness this morning and, i'll tell you what if we're going to do what we have to do as a country moving forward over the next six months, werobably the most appealing this morning if you are an independent voter,ndependent minded democrat or republican in the candidates winners and losers. i was struck by eli's answer to barnicle's question about what she had learned and will take to the senate. tim kaine talking about compromise which he did during the campaign, how you begin to broker an agreement between democrats and republicans around the fisc cliff and it -- >> when he said his numbers started to move is when he started running positive campaign ads in english and in spanish the numbers started breaking his way. >> you had a segment or two before, i hope he's right. i'm sick of seeingg. i was sick of saying tha the money pour eded in, not only in
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the campaign but these outside groups, perhaps will usher in a new way in which campaigns will be conducted. in fact, it will have more debates. in fact, will have -- if indeed tim is right, that the positive ads helped tim to reach out to independent republicans and republicans elect to win that seat. that's what the country wants as much as we might have gone back there was a horrible moment obvious obviously, with sandy but something magical came out of it. i think when christie and obama came together that was axó momented to behave. how thafter election you are seeing the beginning of it. positive will be the new vitriol will no old him not to speak, right? >> i'm making a very salient point here. this is the beginning of a new era. >> you may be making a salient point, but you're making it very
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badly. why don't and collect some of !kthose quotes you were just talking about. >> et tu brutus? >> donny, great point, though. people do want cooperation. americans are tired ofp4campaigning. they really are. and those 30-second ads run by mitt romney didn't move a single vote. a good performance in the first debate did. that's all he had. >> can i be the brief resident cynic? >> and i'm going to join you. >> we closed the polls 12 hours ago. believe that radio talk show hostle online are going to suddenly become more people tune that off. that's the difference. >> we've said that before. >> it's a moment in time. there is a certain shift that's this election. get the smug grin off your face you cynical jerk you. >> to 0 one chris christie that wasn't -- it's not like mitch mcconnell and john boehner and president obama were coming together and -- it was the
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governor and it was a hurricane. 0 so while it was symbolically great, it was what they were supposed to do. i just want to close the conversaon by asking you a question because i believe repuan chris christie will punish him for romney campaign and for 0 republicans to embrace what they have to behave as they always do and kill their young? >> as they always do. guilty of that in the past. chris christie, though, did, and this is critical for somebody who comes hurricane state that had three, i think four hurricanes hit my district. even though bill clinton was my fiercest opponent politically, when we had a hurricane hit, you wanted the president there. you wanted to be able to take him around and show hurting. i will tell you -- i will tell you -- and chris christie teared up apeople have been mocking him. i will tell you it's suchañ an emotion emotional experience when you go
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two days earliafter hurricane ivan hit our when our good friends jan and rob crawling -- jan was crawling on the ound. her house was completely destroyed and she was crawling on tictures of their babh the new house they bought. you lose everything. and when you represent these people who have lost everyt president -- >> you want to to bring people comfort and i will tell you it doesn't matter whether it's clinton or george w. bush or whether it's barack obama. when air force one touches down in your district you go and you embrace that president and ask him for help. chris christie did all he could do if you don't believe ask jeb bush who did it time and again as governor of florida. >> there you go. and it's the republicans, then they haven't learned anything from this election. still ahead on this special , moderator of "meet the press"
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morning after the election. we're live from historic studio 8h in rockefeller center in a live studio awedudience. they have been here since 4:00 in the morning. >> and, by the way, we have a special announcement -- >> wváhat's that? >> hook at the action up there. >> i have a public service announcement for the three repure forced to sit in the balance konde down on the floor if you want to sneak down, come on down and you can get it.ou can believe some of u were drinking. i think everyone was, we've talked about it for the past couple of hours, but, david gregory, we were just talking about a wrote a week ago where you brought up the , mr. data, was having to rely on and barack obama, who was elected on emotion four yearséi ago was
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sn't even close. >> covering were in politics you understand there'z=t of spin on both sides. the obama team was as confident as any team i've ever covered. they never wavered. they said even a couple days ago the race has not moved. they believed they knew what theá(zr electorate lntooked like. theye republican side, the romney campaign but other republicans saying there is something going on out there, they were ted wrong. >> there was something going on out there. it's just the demographic time bomb went off. >> it went off last night and, chuck, you look at races. 1980 race where you had the big emotion. my race in tied and i won. those days are gone as well with all the early so few swing voters it's bakedjá in the cake byweeken amazing to go back to david's point -- >> and, by the way, congratulations on your polls. you were dead wrong. >> marist was. congratulatep them and our state polls.
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the marmiringoff, you had to wear kevlar vest this is year if you were a pollster. everyone came after you. we spend a lot of money doing these things. not every news organization does. they kept saying, hey, look this is the electorate we're finding and republicans kept saying, no no nos not this. >> they were right. maybe coists were wrong again. >> again. and so we were going to have this whole hand wringing can we do good polling anymore?the problem is there are a lot of cheap pollsters out there that are cheapening the entire proc out n there, the old homer simpson and the robo calling machine that i tell people. there's a great sense where he buys one and suddenly he's harassing the town. that's like half the pollsters out there are doing the they're not real pollsters. ght,j barack obama joins wad row wilson fdr, and bill democratic presidents re-elected the past >> and no one knows it better than he does this morning, he
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has rudy giuliani was mocking him earlier, he didn't want a second term. he wan a second chance as well as a second term. an opportunity to go beyond being t ' historic figure of the african-american president, the first one, and and then wha what do i leave behind that endures, that is good for thetry? and that's a a lot of goodhad will goinhe's playing against a rehw that's going to be involved in a feud. it started already about howéj do we recap this party so we can be competitive on a national basis appeds that came out of 2010. they said that's we want and we can play the hard game ouding a lot of the constituencies that they failed to recognize --n, latinos, african americans, and, david plouffe will go down as the best camp seen using all the tools of modern technology. i said last night theirs was a post modern campgn and the
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romney campaign was a retro campaign. >> an example by this the easiest one since we're a couple footballs -- joe, we are a couple of football goons and you will appreciate this which has to do with how the obama campaign -- the big ten network. nobody watches it except on saturdays. and it's literally this is the0 white male audience. the obama campaign was advertising on the big ten network for five weeks before the romney campaign ever did. these are the little things. they knew -- they had this one that they subscribe to that allowed them to monitor the way nielsen ratings do. they monitor people that voluntarily wanted to do this their viewing habits. what times of day did they sit on their couch and watch television so they knew what times to run their tv ads. it wasn't just what stations to buy. >> this is what did. >> this is taking it to -- looks like stone age stuff in comparison to what they're
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doing. >> what's ironic about that point, i remember roafve and a lot of republicans mocking the spending in march and april of this year and even before to lay down the groundwork for the very thing that would come back and trip them up. if you made those investments because, keep in mind we didn't need a make those kinds of investments in the ground game and the strategy. we'd already set a lot of that in motion in 2009 and 2010. that's how a chris christie wins in new jersey by using technolo just hard work grassroots organization to get that vote. >> so president obama is in the even more select group, having won re-election with the ate as it is at 7.9%. it's only happened a few times. now, joe, there's a double strategy for the republicans, how not to how to regroup so they can win ain. that's a challenge. >> they have to. they have to figure out how to redefine themselves.
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so much of it goes to demographics. we've said it fore[. george h.w. bushgain in 1988 got over 400 electoral votes. he won in a massive landslide and got the same percentag white voters as mitt romney had last night when he got half the electoral votes and will always be remembered as the guy who got bl and i think, david, chuck had said demographic time bomb went off. you guys obviously had fantast news last night. we were at the street "y." i was with my people. i like being with my people. >> i thought you were cute. >> my people last night, the thing that shocked about it early on this was not alabama versus lsu. this is alabama versus ballmean wisconsin went early, michigan went early, pennsylvania went early. as a repubnt believe we lost virginia again. >> right. chuck a minute ago said, you know, they were right. thersot of opposition obama. look at what romney did in terms
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of percentage of the white vote. the country has changed here dramatically and axelrod, david axelrod on this program yesterday was talking abo early vote was telling them. they could see the p hamilton county. they banked a lot of their early vote there, the obama team. >> we all were trying to figure out whether they were being straight because you're always spun by campaigns -- >> they were being tricked. >> i'm going to make this right now. i will never again before an election doubt what obama campaign people tell me. never again. they were straight. they alwayey were always straight. >> you know from being around the bush guys as well, president bush understood the power and his political team the power of the latino vote in the kuncountry. that's why he got 44% in 2004. it's why they pursued comprehensive immigration reform which failed and then the party sort of left him and shrinking direction or a can't find the
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words. a shrinking pool in a party. >> so you talk about george w. bush getting electoral vote tom brokaw. if mitt romney had gotten what, 35%. >> mccain's percentage. he would be president right now. >> president bush 43 came outxas so they had a clearer understanding and a different kind of relationship than governor romney did with them. i think that a lot of damage was done in the republican honestly. that went on cable television night after night a every one of the debates got meaner and got smaller in terms of who they were trying to rechl and who they were trying to motivate and you saw what governor especially when governor perry got in. >> remember, governor romney chose to do this.me things where the party -- it's the party's fault not romney's faultn but in this case he said, no, no, no, i'm going to make my conservative stand on immigration. >> and he could have won the there,
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without trying to go to the right of rick perry. it's stunning what you said. if he had gotten the same percentage as john mccain of president elect. >> he would have carried florida. >> my mustache wants you to know he may florida. action axelrod, not yet. >> eight of the nine like the president is going to carry including florida, mitt romney improved on mccain. but what was amazinging are the places that barack obama expanded. they were very careful. so florida is the example. osceola and orange county just giant expansions of hispanic votes, mostly rican vote. osceola county is a great example. bush carried osceov6la county two elections ago. this time barack obama won it by 25 points. >> we were hearing early on, going out in places like virginia this year than four years ago. the fact is it's a spreading population. i spend time in thereat plains. iowa has a hispanic population working in the food processing
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plants and in marshall town iowa you can find a a spanish language grocery store of some i just got back from south dakota. a fair amount of hispanic popula the factories, working at the low-paying jobs. but in the communities where they e, they are highly regarded for their family values anme and it's the american immigrant story. >> family values work kethic, and faith. >> catholics. they're here on sunday morning. let's go forward from here. >> all right. >> i think that's a real test in the country now. we wake up in the morning. we know who is going to be the president. we know the republican party is going through an identity crisis at this point so where does they end up? the big message last night to get together and find solutions to these problems that so trouble us because we're in a new landscape here in this country economically politically and we need help to get out of it and everybody is going to have to get onboard. >> i think both sides are
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worried about the same things both sides of the aisle, worried about similar things now including the deficit and institutions hear that and respond to it. >> they're going to have to. >> will we see that bridge beingbk built between one end of pennsylvania avenue and the and the house so that you can begin to have thosele president elect the day afteruration should call the speaker of the house and the senate majority leader down to the white house, no cameras, no frills sit down and go all right, gentlemen, this is how we're going to do this and begin to assert that kind of exeche path because i think, ly, that's what's been missing up to this point. >> and others have fallen back and , i don't have to do anything. >> this is a real test not only for john boehner but for eric cantor. eric has a lot of decisions to make to be trying to outflank john boehner on the right? john boehner is trying to do a a has gone democratic two times in a row. >> i don'tound pessimistic because i want to agree with tom but what about the opposite of what he is
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saying is true what if there's a certain entrenchment, more politics and that view what's prevailed. the tea party sentiment is not going away it speaks to the choice eric cantor represents and that he has otiate as of the house. that insurgency could co,1ntinue. ted ted cruis is now senator-eling of a status quo electiere leadership matters. what did the president say last night? way. i want romney -- i want to meet with romney and see can work together. that's the tone. >> that is the tone and i will say you look at the candidates who have)acñ won and lost last nigh fact a lot of house republicans, john boehner being speaker again, i don't know that it's about ideology4 as idiocy. i love this quote. we're debating about whetheró the republican party should be the ve party or don't we just all agree that we stop being the stupid party. look at the fact we did in
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indiana with mourdock with we left two seats ong linda mcmahon chance chances to win. we have left, as steve schmidt, six, seven senate seats on the table. this is not about ideo this is about idiocy. we have got to figure out a way to vet ourer. is -- having been around this for a while. in '72 the democrats went through the same kind of process and again in '80 w '80 everyone talks about the reagan win but in the senate the alliance of the democratic party -- >> it was a slaughter. >> nelson george mcgovern, frank church. they all the party had to hey did so with bill clinton who moved began to reach out up again really president just nine monthsearlier, george bush 41, who had enormous success, they knew how to zero in on the economy and spread the field for the democratic party. >> they need someone and it's not necessarily victory forats to ones who just mentioned &q it. it's not good for the can country. it's ridiculous. national urban league president
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and ceo the latest on that nor'easter threatening the bill? it's beginning to move in. this is going to be a serious just got nailed by sandy and i'm a little more concerned now with the amounts of snow inland. it looks like is going to hold. so as far as our nor'easter goes, you can see it on the screen, all the green is the viest of rain and possibly the thunderstorm. that's all going t throughout the day toda winds are already really coastaregiespee cod.. it looks like down along the shoreline we are going to see a rge of three to five feet with to 12 foot waves on top of that. the damaareas you've seen, they're go houses and through the roller coasters on the coast. it's a horrible scene there for the jersey shore. anyone traveling from philadelphia through you do not want to be on the roads during the evening rush inches in philadelphia. outside of new york se areback. nowee going to have winds
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what a nightmare for all these th country not to ntion all the airlines will easily have thousands of canceled flights the rest of region. we'll continue to track that by starbu we're going to try to stump some political junkies with questions from bing elections. do you know where your polling place is?rt maybe somewhere around my house. mine's just, right o5%eor that way. well you can find out ex where it is using bing elections. it's a good day for politics.=y< which way do you lean politically? well, using the bing news selector you can find news frether) social on this side financial. which party is currently predicted to win a majority in the senate? the republicans? would you make on that? no. are you chicken?
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i believe in the people of america america. i believe in the principles upon which this nation was founded. the only sure thing to greatness. like so manyf you, paul and i have left everything on the field. we have given our alto this i wish i had been to full fulfill your wish to lead the another direction. ann and i join him and this great nation. thanameric the best. thanyou so much.> 25 past the hour. back with us here on this special editioe" chuck todd tom brokaw and donny deutsch. and eugene inove him and his earnestly pray for the president of united tv states. the president needs those prayers. >> that's classy going into tough talk about last night first. it was -- it just wasn't close.
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>> it was e you surprised byvp how >> i was. the electoral vote it wasn't regional it was >> kids at home getting ready for it happened in the senate as well. >> yeah.p8 pick up were risk and so few republican seats at risk and it just seeme like a tim kaine wcomfortably in virgin elizabeth warren comfortably in massachusetts. i mean you look at what's happ#5o/ening across the country. >> the democraticse looks like they willhold on in north dakota. it's an interesting new crop some future stars or#l actually look at elizabeth warren is going to be a na i'm guessing she is popular
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tammy baldwin. by the making, united states youallot measures in support of: gay marriage. in maryland and maine they both passed. and then all the pot smoking. >> you can t brian's interviewing the governor of colorado, going you know you guys, what was he saying ;$exactly, david? >> weed is like icantcigarettesoviáernor says, hey wait a minute, they do it in cambridge, too, you know. >> there are 19 female senators. for the -- >> this is nothe first fans. >> it's interesting that this
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network this coay unl it's not soul-searchinginvent themselves, it's not going to 0 work for them.%÷ that radical of a very in man out ty. the country haw it's going point. it's not i can't minority votes anymore. you have to pay attention to women's issue has the to.b this ande lessons and stop you know frankly -- this is no a whackos for senate, th going to do fine and that good for the country. >> how the republican primary? >> you are getting republican leaders talking to outside groups say inglet's not go down
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a used progressive. the ron paul supporters. there are a lot of libné7/ a lot of this is shocking. there arey conservative gay men and lesbian women who aren. >> this is not aboutes giving up what they are. it's about conservatism aroundou believe which is fiscal conservatism or less emphasis on social issuesrl finding a way with latinos they' n auency for republican party as jeb bush be fits with where the country is. to say nice things about you because i don't really like you. l consere the country lives."$ on that's as well,
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by the way. >> this is about government's relationship with people. >> i don't think the federal government sho in abortion, in gay marriage. i think, chuck it's more general than even eing conservative ideologically and, david, you are dead right. be conservative f&discally but ; temperamentally be moderate.ññ like ronald reagan. >> you get 70% of you want is that something your constituency will support? >> taxes and spending a purity test pentup frustration conservatives haveut how big government0; hash4 gotten. reid and all of them are smart on this, they orce the old guys to deal with it. start anew. >> make no mistake this morning after the ele. the entitlement system is too mnse. we shouldg $2 a't keepending but republicans need to learn one thing, like chuckreminded me of
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ronald reagan's statement. conservatives write it your friend 80% of t20% of the time. they need to underline that reag and realize sometimes you have to compromise country there are more people who are life out d >> just where you get elected. >> and, by the way, do it in spannic.w4 >> the keynote "washington post" columnist ezra marc morial you're watching "mor30 rock. lm+c>bo edit card, i earn
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morial, the letter you are sending to the president behalf of the about incomeequality. jo fiscal problems that it's not done inhaome createsr economy and hurts the recovery that is in its believereside community safety and violence third and what we're calling a fair approach to the fiscal problem. f8 problem. and for that means got to combineue enhancements whether it's cmination ofs solely focused o dprograms. we have to expandconversation. i think. ezra let's talk about the conversation. what's going to happen trser president obama in the sxnk what's fjk night, if you elect a president and made all these promises and then the question is can they get any of them through congress? y ha?%9y/ with presideobama'sffor that will happen and you hav increasescurrently law which wilha we don't compromise after they but one way or another they're going guarantees, it locks in a lev cha that is presidentialn ne, what's the deal that will be struck as w go to especially on the/obama tax cutsck for happy news. going towell you have the drivers. le of the ndhedo it.
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we want to do it. we want to burst the boil. gram we genda be campaign and he didn't have a posie agenda is set for him. ezrae on remain andublica think january -- some kicked dowe the way, existing law, aos p the instance. >> if the president and plays golfre crincreased. >> i think the public also wants concertedfo rhetoricy want to s and i think the bigger is whether you will sort arran some discussion it's very difficult to not only fiscal clmeans one thing while at the long-term plan to fix the deficit. so i can see a two- process here term fora ing to see little less of rm. i think,int, willou're that is more comfortable and reach where i see the next four year a tremendously effective less divisive seconterm. >> i wanpoint, there's a really important to make andl morning, this idea of reaching across the ai tango. the president -- president. >> it starts withdent years were about obstructionism in t congress. marc, or not,
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forward. you just don't. >> but it's >> evenone is not t because republicans right now, the smart republicans who want to build are g are saying but being heard and it's not only the presiden the president has to n legislative branch in tt to be a esident,aying to all come to the table,also. >> ezra? >> we do a greating should strted on heg across the and whether or not theto find agreement even put aside president. the gang of gang of we need to do a better job of, does congrchange? what does th table ando compromise? >> up next oéinvrpkhrgoj progrel, how does it work? you just have to eat it as part step 1. eat the
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>> no. >> you ask that q new york because mayor bloomberg is the mayor. nothing fun anymore here. rapid fire, what did you learn, governor? >> i learned we'd better getacqt together quick and >>very month 50,000 hispanics isgoing to do about that? >> better do something or it's adios. out msnbcratt bailout saved obama. >> what diyou >> as always i'm right. ia. and shoutout to al and his parents. >> all right. way to go. what did you learn? >> when the election is over the fiscalness begins >> also stares at car accidents on the side of the road. >> politics will rule the 21st century. >> mika i learned we haot of grace with the president's mitt romney what did diplomatic solution between you and david axelrodmustache problem. so
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